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What’s Under Your Patio? Why We Build Stone Patios on an Open-Graded Base

November 12, 20264 min read
What’s Under Your Patio? Why We Build Stone Patios on an Open-Graded Base

Short answer: We build natural stone patios on an open-graded base: geotextile fabric, #57 stone compacted in lifts, a hidden perforated PVC drain that ties into solid pipe, and #89 stone or trass bedding under the stone, with permeable joints. Water moves down through the patio and out instead of getting trapped underneath. Trapped water is what makes patios fail.

Stone is only as good as what it sits on. Here’s how the common methods work, where they fall short, and what we build instead.

  • Natural stone pool deck with a section cut showing the open-graded base, perforated drain and geotextile fabric underneath.
  • Diagram of stone set in thinset or mortar on a concrete slab with grouted joints and a surface channel drain.
  • Diagram of water trapped between stone pavers and a concrete slab, causing freeze-thaw damage and patio failure.
  • Diagram of stone pavers on a sand base that holds water, settles and can stain natural stone over time.
  • Labeled cross section of natural stone pavers, #89 or trass bedding, #57 open-graded base, perforated PVC drain, geotextile fabric and compacted subgrade.
  • Five-step diagram of water moving through permeable joints, the open-graded base and a perforated PVC pipe tied into solid pipe.
  • Close-up of a natural stone patio in a random pattern with permeable jointing material between the stones.
  • Nine-step stone patio build sequence from excavation and geotextile fabric to compaction, edge restraint and sealing.
  • Octagonal natural stone fountain on a stone patio beside natural stone steps, paving and stacked stone walls.
  • Blueprint-style graphic explaining trass bedding as added stability and edge restraint for natural stone patios.
  • Jesse House, founder of Daydream Design & Build and Stone Atelier, smiling in a dark blazer in front of a brick wall.

The common method: stone on a concrete slab

A lot of stone patios are built the same way:

  • Stone set in thinset or mortar on a concrete slab
  • Grouted joints
  • Channel drains on the surface

The hope is that over time all the surface water finds those drains. Only God himself can guarantee where that water goes. Water gets in through cracks and joints and gets trapped between the stone and the slab with nowhere to go.

Over time that leads to:

  • Freeze and thaw damage
  • Materials shifting and moving
  • Cracks, heaving and stains
  • Patio failure

Why not a sand base or crush and run?

They’re not our pick for natural stone either. Fine material holds water instead of moving it. Over time the base pumps, shifts and settles, and the stone on top moves with it.

Natural stone can also react to sand over time, with staining and discoloration that works its way up from below. Ask us and we’ll walk you through it.

What we build instead: an open-graded system

An open-graded base uses clean, angular stone with space between the pieces, so water drains through it instead of sitting in it. Here are the layers from the bottom up:

Layer What it does
Compacted subgrade Stable native soil under the system
Geotextile fabric Keeps soil from migrating up into the base
Geogrid (where needed) Adds stability on weaker soils
#57 open-graded base Structure, plus a fast path for water
Perforated PVC drain Collects water inside the base
#89 stone or trass bedding A level, compacted setting bed for the stone
Natural stone pavers Set with permeable jointing material

Permeable joints and hidden drains

  1. Permeable jointing material lets water drain through the joints instead of sitting on top
  2. The open-graded base moves it down fast
  3. Perforated PVC collects it
  4. It ties into solid pipe
  5. It runs out from beneath the patio

Permeable joints are a deliberate part of the system. Grouted joints try to seal water out at the surface. Permeable joints let it pass down into the base, where it can drain away.

There are no surface drains to chase, and you have peace of mind that water isn’t sitting somewhere under your patio.

How it’s built, step by step

  1. Excavate
  2. Install permeable geotextile fabric
  3. Add geogrid where needed
  4. Place #57 stone, compacted in lifts to meet compaction requirements
  5. Install the drain system
  6. Add #89 stone or trass bedding, compacted
  7. Install edge restraint (we don’t recommend plastic)
  8. Set the pavers, then roller compact
  9. Seal if desired, with a product chosen for the specific stone

Trass bedding: extra insurance

For added long-term stability, we can use a trass bedding system like Romex. Trass bedding also acts as an edge restraint. Without it, we plan a proper edge restraint for the project. We don’t recommend plastic.

Frequently asked questions

What is an open-graded base?

A base made of clean, angular crushed stone like #57, without fine particles. The open spaces between stones let water drain through instead of being held in the base.

Why is mortar on a concrete slab a problem for stone patios?

Water that gets through joints and cracks can be trapped between the stone and the slab. With freeze-thaw cycles, that trapped water can lead to cracking, shifting, staining and failure over time.

Is a sand base bad for natural stone?

Sand holds water and can shift and settle over time. Natural stone can also react to sand, with staining and discoloration from below.

Do you recommend a sealer?

It depends on the stone. We don’t recommend one specific sealer for every project. The product should be chosen for the stone being used.

Can you help if someone else is building my patio?

Yes. We offer consulting, design and natural stone through Stone Atelier, whether or not we’re the builder.

We help people succeed

Consulting, design and stone, from the base up. Learn more on our natural stone supplier page. Related reading: why test data matters when you choose natural stone.

Photos in this post show projects our stone traveled to.

Jesse House, founder of Daydream Design and Build
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Jesse House

Founder of Daydream Design and Build and its in-house Stone Atelier in Calhoun, Georgia. A licensed Georgia residential general contractor with nearly a decade in outdoor living, he sources European limestone direct from the quarry and fabricates it cut to size.

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